In this episode, Kevin had the opportunity to talk with Hasna Bergwall, the co-founder of the WeCroak app that encourages people to lead happier lives by thinking about death, five times a day.

Some of the significant points discussed in this episode are laid out as follows:

• WeCroak is a smartphone app based on the Bhutanese principle that to live a happy life; one must meditate on one’s own death five times a day
• Because after all, we’re all going to die. No one gets out of this alive.
• Life is short and precious, and rare and special, and we want to use it well.

• They mentioned what they love about death; it is universal because we’re all going to die.
• A quote about death from Epictetus, “I cannot escape death, but at least I can escape the fear of it.”
• One of the things, both Buddhism and stoicism is an absolute agreement on the danger of anger, just like creating delusion

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